18.04 beta 2 -- Mutiny problems

[charles-nix]

Have been using 17.10 with Mutiny for several weeks, and am preparing to move all our pcs to Mate 18.04 LTS. Just installed 18.04 beta 2, and set to Mutiny layout.

Three problems noted:

1. I don’t have global menus on any application.
2. I don’t have any menu, global or window for firefox
3. Some applications (notably Synaptic) don’t show up in the side dock when running

I didn’t want to file a bug report until I can confirm some of this–is anyone else seeing this?

[wolfman]

Hi @charles-nix,

have you done all your updates?:

Ubuntu Mate Update Guide

These are my own setting preferences, use at your own risk!. AN IMPORTANT NOTE FOR LINUX BEGINNERS. WHEN YOU ARE IN RECOVERY MODE, THE KEYBOARD DEFAULTS TO US ENGLISH, IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER LANGUAGE KEYBOARD OTHER THAN US ENGLISH, WHEN YOU TYPE "Y" (FOR "YES"), IT MIGHT SHOW UP AS A DIFFERENT LETTER, ON MY KEYBOARD I MUST PRESS THE "Z" KEY WHICH EQUATES TO "Y" AS I HAVE A GERMAN KEYBOARD, JUST PRESS "BACKSPACE" AND HIT A DIFFERENT KEY UNTIL YOU SEE THE "Y" SHOW UP!. Click on "Subscri…

[ouroumov]

How did you set up the Mutiny layout?
@Wimpy said that the layout switcher within welcome is really unreliable as of now and that we shouldn’t use it - use MATE Tweak instead.
Maybe the menu issues come from here.

[gabdub]

Link to the issues I found in the dock:

Progress report as we approach 18.04 Beta 2

I’m having some issues with the dock (v0.85 from beta2+today updates) when trying to tweak the Mutiny layout to my taste (not sure if something is related to this bug): the dock doesn’t activate another running program when draging a file from caja over the program icon The Panel Options dialog don’t show the Dock size options the first time is opened (you have to close and reopen it) The Panel Options dialog is not shown (sometimes) in the dock and if you minimize it, it disappears and never …

and

Progress report as we approach 18.04 Beta 2

You have to click on the right spot to modify the panel. I found this very tricky when you have items in the panel that expand to occupy all the free space. Try clicking on the left side of the panel and then move the new added item. In the Mutinity layout, for example, I had to remove the dock from the panel to be able to reduce the panel size just to get smaller icons.

Some screenshots:

[charles-nix]

I set it up in MATE Tweak. I don’t recall the status of the Firefox menu prior to switching to Mutiny, but after going to Mutiny there is no menu even in the app. I have tried both ways in about:config ui.use_unity_menubar, with no change. All updates are done.

Since last night, I set up four other users on this machine. (It is a shared kiosk for occasional use.) I set them on Cupertino and Familiar. The firefox menus work as expected, both global and local, so I think it is something specific to Mutiny.

I have also seen layout changes where all the panels just disappear–then the next time it works.

[charles-nix]

By the way–overall this distribution is WONDERFUL. I’ve been with Linux since the days of the Pentium 90, and we moved our whole office to Linux at Ubuntu 8.04. This is so polished and easy to use. I can’t wait to roll it out to everyone else–they will love it so much.

[charles-nix]

Update: Last night, and previously, I have been applying updates with synaptic–not sure if that is related. This morning, I did apt-get dist-upgrade -f as suggested in @wolfman guide. Then changed layouts to familiar and back to mutiny, and the menus are all back and work as expected, both global and local.

Is there something about updates for a beta version that requires the dist-upgrade method? Or did the updates just come out over night?

In any case, the menus are now working as expected.
And Synaptic now appears in the side dock as expected also.

Thanks for the help.

[elcste]

Is there something about updates for a beta version that requires the dist-upgrade method? Or did the updates just come out over night?

Dist-upgrade (and the similar apt full-upgrade) can remove packages if needed as well as install them. When things are in flux before the release, sometimes packages are removed.

There also are a lot of updates being released everyday this part of the cycle!

[charles-nix]

Got it! Thank you for the help.