Fresh install of 18.04 & can't log into GUI?

@wolfman:

With you on the “if only I had gone for the money path in life” and turned
my efforts to being a commercial product . . . worthy of large sums of
money being brought to me in corporate wheel barrows, etc.

So, I downloaded a fresh daily yesterday, wiped the partition and tried for
the piggyback on the /home again . . . and that “third time” failed to
provide a GUI. Next step will be to try again with a fresh /home user name
. . . and that will be the extend of it for awhile on the 18.04 testing.
Back over in Lu 18.04 typing this from a piggybacked /home, so it shouldn’t
be an issue . . . but seemikngly is???

While I was testing the live DVD I logged out of the session, trying to
exit the session, but rather than reboot it just logged out, and then I
thought I had something when it wouldn’t except “linux” as the universal
live session username . . . so I searched google for the username and found
a ubuntu forum thread where the complaint was this same complaint . . . OP
couldn’t log into a ubuntu-mate GUI as it “wasn’t accepting his password” .
. . . So, that did confirm my thought that this isn’t a new issue, but an
olde one . . . for some users.

On another front, trying to follow your instructions to reboot into
“recovery” mode showed “problems” in the recovery menu, trying to “load
network” on the first try brought the opening “dpkg” sequence of showing
the various functions it was loading, but then it stuck/froze on the
flashing cursor for several minutes . . . had to shut down with power
button, rebooted, skipped the “network” option, tried “dpgk” . . . it found
“19” packages to download, but “failed to fetch” them (no surprise) . . .
something else happened so I again had to shut down with button . . .
rebooted into TTY and ran the upgrade . . . did not solve the GUI log in
problem.

It’s interesting how the “live” session booted up shows none of these
problems, most all the apps seem to work and the GUI has lots of features,
but the install isn’t working, and then under the hood seems to be “messy”
. . . like none of the previous distro’s have been included . . . and a
“recovery” mode that doesn’t “recover” . . . .

Post back when I’ve tried again . . . .

n_s

Hi @non_space,

how old is your HDD, that might be the problem?, there may be damaged sectors on the drive but I can’t say for sure!. :smiley:

@wolfman:

Computer is “'12” . . . so not that old . . . and the linux partitions are “later” in the drive . . . and the Lu 18.04 install is on the same drive.

In the meanwhile, got a post back on the bug report from a canonical email address asking me to check the daily from today, so I will do that and see how that works . . . takes awhile to get big files downloaded, so it’ll probably be tonight or tomorrow before I have anything to update . . . .

n_s

Hi @non_space,

out of interest, what format are you using for the partitions?, I use EXT4 which is the standard, are you using something else?. :smiley:

@wolfman:

Yep, I always use ext4, but I also followed your tutorial and generally the
steps are being followed. Yesterday, taking the advice of the canonical
guy I zsync’d the daily from yesterday, after trying to update/upgrade out
of the problem, burned it again to DVD and ran the install . . . bringing
me back to the problem once again.

Trying your recovery gambit, didn’t seem to fix anything and seem to lead
into more problems with failing to complete the networking connection and
failing to then retrieve packages via dpkg . . . ran several TTY sessions
after the install, logging into TTY and running update/upgrade . . . all
have failed.

After that I found a flashdrive and “burned” the iso to the drive, and
booted it up . . . all seems to go well; the only thing that doesn’t work
is “restart” out of the live session, the DVD or flash seem to be “ejected”
but instead of rebooting the U-MATE splash image remains . . . for several
minutes until I shut it down via PB.

n_s

Hi @non_space,

have you since done any updates and have things improved in the meantime?. :smiley:

@wolfman:

Thought I had replied to this question, but, yes I have done several TTY updates since I posted, but so far I haven’t been able to log into the GUI . . . . I was hoping for another, “Can you try the latest daily?” from one of the launchpad devs, but since the first time last Monday I haven’t heard anything from them . . . . Waiting for a few more days to go by, the 4 installs is like one more passed “the third time is the charm” . . . . May try again on the TTY update at some point before running a fresh install. So interesting that the live session is very good, no major issues, can log in and out and back in . . . but after the install something is not working properly . . . .

n_s

HI @non_space,

a daily build might be the answer, the following link may be of assistance as far as doing a fresh install (again!) goes!:

(See last answer but not relevant to your problem). :smiley:

@wolfman:

Appreciate the reply, generally these problems do get fixed over time, the
question is to know the when of it to save time on the
re-re-re-re-re-installs . . . .

I did see some of the posts on the nvidia problems, but in my case I’m
running “radeon” and the live session is perfectly crispy as far as the
video driver goes, and even the log in window functions are rendered
perfectly . . . the only other thing that doesn’t happen is the “restart”
function . . . in both installed and live session, restarting goes to the
MATE splash window and hangs there . . . . Well, I’ll post back if and
when a fresh daily solves the problem . . . looks like a very nice distro
once I can get it working . . . .

n_s

@wolfman:

So, finally did get into the GUI . . . “6th time was the charm” . . . did a fresh zsync of the daily yesterday and burned it to flashdrive, ran the install still trying to hook up to old home folder . . . and then shut down. On reboot log in window shows up, but again log in failed . . . rather than wasting more time with update/upgrades I ran another fresh install, but this time I made a new user and after the install I rebooted in to “recovery” . . . tried to “enable network” . . . which “failed/got stuck” so I “ctrl c’d” out of it and the GUI log in window showed up, entered my password and screen went again to black for a couple seconds, then a scrambly desktop image showed up . . . and we were “in” . . . .

So, quite oddly, in a TTY I could access the old/newly re-badged home folder, run updates/upgrades, and see its contents–but logging into the GUI was for some reason “locked”??? Kind of a PITA . . . but, anyway, now typing this in the GUI U-MATE 18.04 . . . jut had to come up with a new user name to get it done.

n_s

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Hi n_s,

great news, glad to hear you are up and running!. :thumbsup: I have marked the thread as solved for you. :smiley:

@wolfman:

OK, thanks for tidying up . . . I had hoped that I could have “solved” the
problem with re-gaining access to the old home folder with the data intact,
but indeed I can now log into the user GUI . . . so it’s more a “work
around” than a “solution” IMHO. It’s just odd that doing the re-badging of
another home folder did work with several other distros, including Lu
18.04, and I could log in via TTY, but not via GUI . . . oh well.

Still, as perhaps I reported earlier in this thread there seemed to be
“issues” in the recovery process, with errors or hangs . . . in “enable
networking” for instance, and other processes that perhaps could use some
“analysis” before the final flight tests and/or releases . . . ???

n_s

Hi n_s,

I always use a root and home partition (sometimes with swap) for that just-in-case scenario:

:smiley:

Hi n_s,

I always use a root and home partition (sometimes with swap) for that
just-in-case scenario:

@wolfman:

Alrighty, thanks for that link to the “something else” guideline, I believe
you had posted that previously in this thread, but I read through it again,
and there was a comment about, “Don’t use the same /home page if you are
moving from ubuntu to peppermint os, as the system config files may cause a
system crash . . .” . . . so possibly that was going on in going from
u-mate 16.04 to OpenSUSE LEAP and then back to u-mate 18.04?? But, in
doing essentially the “same” maneuver in another partition, going from
something “ubuntu” to something “LEAP-based” but back over to Lubuntu
18.04–all sharing the same /home folder . . . all was and remains “well.”
Perhaps Lubuntu is less “finicky”??

I was thinking that the newest system installer sort of sets things up as
it prefers them . . . and so as long as one system is using the /home
folder at a time, it would be OK–and the problems would be happening when
two different systems, other than say “ubuntu-based” flavors, but if I
tried to run ubuntu & OpenSUSE thru the same user name /home folder then I
could expect “conflicts” or problems to show up, etc.

Thanks for playing along,

n_s

Hi @non_space,

if you mix and match different OSes, there may well invariably be system files that simply aren’t compatible among the different versions of Linux which would cause problems!. :smiley: Are you sorted now?. :smiley:

wolfman
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Hi @non_space
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,

if you mix and match different OSes, there may well invariably be system
files that simply aren’t compatible among the different versions of Linux
which would cause problems!. [image: :smiley:] Are you sorted now?. [image:
:smiley:]

@wolfman:

Appears that way, did a fairly large update/upgrade yesterday, but haven’t
restarted on it yet, otherwise U-MATE is operational . . . fully . . . .

n_s

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Any reason why you have my profile in your reply?. :smiley:

Any reason why you have my profile in your reply?. [image: :smiley:]

You are a rock star buddy . . . and I just wanted everybody to know . . . .
: - ))) Not sure, thought I had clipped everything but your
quote–replying via Gmail . . . maybe Gmail thinks you are a rock star . .
. yeah that’s it . . . ???!!!

n_s

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Well I do sing now and then, mostly with 10 beers inside me and I play the guitar badly LOL!. :smiley:

Well I do sing now and then, mostly with 10 beers inside me and I play the
guitar badly LOL!. [image: :smiley:]

The point is that you try . . . you make the effort to emote
vocally/aurally and “let it out” . . . others of us don’t, even with the
assistance of ten beers. : - ))

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