Chronological panel question

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I use a layout similar to the “Familiar” template on MATE Tweaks. I’ve noticed that the panel on the top of my screen has been acting a bit strange. In the past, it would show a clock in the top right, and I could click it to see my calendar information. For some reason, now, it is gone. For reference, this is how it looks now on the top right of my screen:

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No clock; though, I do see it appear briefly during startup then it disappears. I’ve temporarily been adding the clock to the panel by right clicking and selecting “Add to Panel” but this clock behaves differently than the previous one, and also I cannot put it in the top right of my screen like I prefer. This is what it currently looks like on the top left of my screen:

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Does anyone know how I can return the “default” clock back to the panel?

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Right click on the applet on the right side of the panel and remove then right click again and add Indicator Applet Complete

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Indicator Applet Complete only shows the time (in my UM 22.04 setup).

If your setup showed the full date and time format previously, without changing your indicator selection, then confirm your indicator's name by

  • doing right-click on the indicator,
  • noting the name given, then
  • right-click on the panel to "Add Panel"

to verify that same indicator is still available by name.

ONLY if it is still available, then

  • first remove the indicator from the panel,
  • then re-Add the indicator App to the panel.

If you still don't get the "date and time" showing, then you need to use two separate Apps, like I do myself. Namely

  • "Indicator Applet" at the extreme right, and
  • "Clock" applet, just to the left of it.

That will give you what you want!

:slight_smile:


After you make your changes to your panel(s), be sure to save the new configuration as a "Named Layout" using MATE Tweak.

To do that, follow the guidance provided in the bottom half of the this posting.

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Indicator Applet Complete on my previous installs of 22.04 and my current installs of 24.04 show date and time.

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This is odd but my Indicator Applet Complete shows neither time nor date! I tried removing it and re-adding it (because it seems to be the correct indicator in every other way). I tried restarting just in case too.

What I didn’t realize before was that the indicator was “locked.” Now that I have it unlocked I’ll be using @ericmarceau ‘s suggestion of moving a separate clock Applet to be adjacent to the Indicator applet (for me I like it being to the right side of the indicators).

Very strange that the clock just vanished from the Indicator Applet Complete; it disappeared out of the blue a day or two ago; I don’t know what I did.

PS Thanks for the suggestion to create a named layout I will definitely be doing that.

Also thanks both of you for being so helpful with such a silly question

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Oh I just remembered one more thing. The unfortunate thing about the Clock applet is that it doesn’t connect with Evolution, which I have been using for my calendar. On the other hand, when my Indicator Applet Complete had the time on it, I could click that and see upcoming calendar information. I don’t know if there is another way to replicate such behavior.

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On my UM 22.04, if I install that App fresh, mine shows only time and no option to show the date+time. :frowning:

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I don't see any related issue reported on the GitHub site for MATE Desktop:


I don't know enough about it ... but ... using dconf-editor, and go to

/org/ayatana/indicator/datetime

there are a number of configurable options. Notably:

show-calendar

show-date

show-day

time-format

custom-time-format

My system default format string for this last one, custom-time-format, is

%l:%M %p

giving "8:52 PM".

For something like ... 20:44 _ Fri Aug 15 ... the format string needs to be changed to

%R _ %a %b %d

NOTE: I did all that, but it had no effect, even when I toggled "Use system default" to OFF! Also, modifying the time-format parameter had no impact either.

Don't know if those are supposed to have relevance or not but, given they are specific to ayatana, I expected them to have some! :frowning:

What my test instances for the Apps are currently showing:

SNAPSHOT__PanelApp__DateAndTime


For the linkage with Evolution, there was a previously reported issue which may be relevant to what you are experiencing.


There is a package,

ayatana-webmail

but I see no equivalent referencing Evolution!

However there is a package,

evolution-plugins

which references e-mail notifications.

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Wow! Ok you hit the nail on the head. I went into Evolution, deleted a single task I had that had no start date (only an end date), then restarted my computer. The time is back! And I can click it and it shows calendar information once again. I learned a lesson that I should do a search before asking a question, I don’t know why I didn’t do that.

It is interesting to see your experience experimenting with ayatana configurations. Good to know that customization is hard or impossible in this specific circumstance.

I appreciate all the help. If I have time I’ll look into maybe writing up an issue report.

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