External NTFS HDD, txt-files will not be opened with pluma immediately

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Ubuntu-Mate 24.04, handle of files via caja on a external HDD-Drive, NTFS
A double-click of e.g.: mp4 (mkv)-files will open the respective video player of my choice.
Something like that I expect, if I open a txt-file (file-extension "txt").
But all ways I will asked what to do : Execute,
As if it is a "executable script".
Also the context menu entry does not exist : "open with pluma"

My mount-options e.g.:
mount -l
/dev/sda1 on /media/mnt/Samsung_2T_Ext type fuseblk (rw,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096) [Samsung_2T_Ext]

Is it configurable, that txt-files will be opened like video-files, directly via double-click ?

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Linux an Windows file permissions are somewhat different. When UM mounts an NTFS drive NTFS file permissions are mapped into Linux file permissions. As the result, every text file on the NTFS drive is considered to be an executable one.

And Caja treats text executable files (aka scripts) differently from legacy text files. And yes, you can configure what has to be done with such the files in Caja preferences.

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Every file (mkv, mp3, ods, ...) get the executable flag on a NTFS system.
But all files will be automatically opened with the respective application (Vlc, Libre-Office-Calc a.s.o.), except txt-files.

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unless ... you right click a .txt file, Open With ... and select pluma. From that point on, any .txt will be opened by pluma.

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Please see above "Also the context menu entry does not exist : "open with pluma"", context menu does mean right click ...

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this is um24.04, I accessed my network where there are ntfs files, I right clicked on backup.txt and the context menu showed me Open with Pluma.

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You dont want to right click but you expect ubuntu mate to already have the association "open .txt file with pluma". Is that correct?

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Yes of course, I did check it also with the OS (Devices indicated by caja = Win11), same result, no pluma context entry.
Home a.s.o , I have it.

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You expect the OS to know and open any txt file with pluma.

What if a user prefers vi, emacs, nano ? How would the OS be able to read the user's mind?

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It does not have to do with named OS.
I does not expect something what I did not set.
Your understanding of my situation is obviously wrong.

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Your first post: if I double click a txt file, I expect it to open with pluma.

If the OS does not have this association, make it, and from then on, double clicking a txt file will open with pluma. Is that so difficult?

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@pavlos_kairis, obviously you can not imagine that a OS "have this association" via the respective setting, but it does neither give the "open with pluma" context entry, nor the expected behaviour via double click.
Is that so difficult to understand ?

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Does someone know, in which configuration files the caja settings will be written ?
Obviously not as easy as expected, refer to debian - Where does caja put its preferences - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange
No solution found until now (e.g.: dconf-editor).

I did upload a screenrecord with the respective file operation, first context menu, then via double click.
First in my home directory, then in the ext. NTFS drive.

The link will be 3 days alive :
https://wetransfer.com/downloads/f7581a6d1cad0d8aef26420e5117462920241230153849/2874a98615dcc071a83b3c4cc5917b5920241230153942/06c705?t_exp=1735832329&t_lsid=670debc8-210f-48c8-bb2e-a1857c71b0e8&t_network=email&t_rid=ZW1haWx8Njc1ODI0MTVkODI3Zjg0MWYyMDAyMTFl&t_s=download_link&t_ts=1735573182

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look in /usr/share/applications/mate-mimeapps.list

I have an entry, text/plain=pluma.desktop

If that is missing, add it and try.

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Thank you for reply.

I did check it, part of the file :
...
message/rfc822=evolution.desktop
inode/directory=caja-folder-handler.desktop
text/plain=pluma.desktop
audio/mpeg=rhythmbox.desktop
audio/x-mpegurl=rhythmbox.desktop
audio/x-scpls=rhythmbox.desktop
...

Perhaps, I will have again a "special" system (Asus Vivo Book with AMD, by my opinion a good Laptop).

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Whether my system is a special or not, another user with an old USB drive, format it as NTFS, and check if the same error can be reproduced. If, yes, I will create a bug report on launchpad., if not, I have to live with it.

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Sometimes, the OS install just doesn't do everything because of a "glitch". It happens, for whatever reason, because of some unique condition the install encountered, relating to your unique context.

In some cases, the failsafe is to not do anything at all, leave things alone, without establishing a "preset".

So, given that ... what Pavlos outlined as the manual post-installation "repair" is a minimum, mandatory intervention to get to where you want to be.

There is no need to insult people, especially if you had taken the time to scan the Community's postings to see that Pavlos is

  • VERY knowlegeable,
  • VERY helpful, and especially,
  • VERY on-point,

when it comes to his contributions to any issue!

You may want to revisit you posting and retract you "barbs".

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At the command line, you might want to enter

file {filename}

for the file that is not triggering the Pluma session you are expecting.

The result may give a hint as to how the system is classifying the file, which may explain the reason why Pluma is not one of the default offerings for "double-click" or "right-click". It might be reacting to rule which is different than what you are expecting.

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@ericmarceau, nothing I will do further more, it seems to indicate a failure, it does insult the system. Be as you want but without me.