Forced happiness with tilda?

Why is the tilda drop down terminal started by default on Mate 16.04 ?
It uses about 40 MB memory just to be there in the backround, are there better alternatives ?
Currently tildas configuration quirks and lack of stability does not convince me.
Disable: System->Preferences->Personal->Startup Applications

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Yep, not a fan of Tilda here as well. In my case I just went into Synaptic & removed it.

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I use Guake. It’s superior in my opinion. But I can see the logic of using Tilda as it has a lighter footprint. Also, it’s not as if it is a big deal removing it from the start-up list. Thus, I don’t have a problem with it being installed by default.

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I’m like @SantaFe on this one, I personally don’t see the need. Terminals are only a CTRL+ALT+T away, and keeps the F12 free for many other uses.

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Me too. I think if Ubuntu MATE is built taking users of computers with lower resources into account then the base system should be kept as minimal as possible and we already have mate-terminal and xterm. It is always easier to add the packages you want than to remove those you don’t IMHO.

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Like I said, I am not a particular fan of Tilda and use Guake instead. But, for anyone not wishing to use either, it takes all of 20 seconds to deselect it from the start-up list. Things that bother me are things that inhibit what I can do with the system, or that are locked down so I can’t kill them off if I don;t like them. Tilda fulfils neither of these criteria since it can be turned permanently off in a few seconds. Finally, the size of an inert, unused Tilda on one’s hard drive is is going to be minuscule I would have thought.

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Show me proof Tilda uses 40MB of RAM.

Quite so.

I can show you proof it uses a tiny 11mb

Today just started now tilda (16.04 version) is 37,3 MB RAM usage on amd64

That is weirdly high. I have just tested Tilda on my desktop, my laptop and my notebook and they are all reading around 11 mbs.

What is that bash file that is running, from the look of it, as some kind of daughter process of Tilda?

I should clarify, for completeness, I am using Ubuntu Studio 14.04 64 bit with Ubuntu Mate 1.8.2 desktop over the top of it.

I see 38MB

and this is 16o4. 64bit

I see 6.7 MB

Thanks for the info mate, but which OS version and which architecture 32/64 Bit ?

Here you go, @peba: :blush:

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That’s interesting.

Both instances of high memory usage seem to be on the 16.04 edition and both of them seem to be running some kind of bash file.

Maybe there is some kind of issue related to how Tilda is running in 16.04?

I had initially wondered if it was that fact I installed Tilda post-distro-installation myself. But, then noticed that Mated’s machine is also running Tilda with very low RAM and his version of Tilda came pre-installed. The only thing that me and Mated have in common on this issue is that we are not running 16.04 and thing in common on this issue between Peba and V3xx is that they are running 16.04.

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I will investigate this further.

Running a bash instance causes about 3 to 4 MB RAM consumption:
try yourself:

echo "ping localhost" | bash&

Could that high memory usage be caused by keeping too much history of the terminal (high number of lines) ?
What are you tilda parameters ?

no - tilda just started and default settings, looks like the 16.04 version is not ready for release

Interesting :wink:
Remove dependency on tilda (and possibly others)
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1540100