Have any efforts been made to improve accessibility with Orca in the Ubuntu 24.04 and 24.10 installers?

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I am a totally blind individual using Orca version 47 exclusively on an Ubuntu-Mate system. If this is not the right place to be asking, please forgive me; I'm incredibly new to this whole forum ordeal, but hear all you guys are very helpful and friendly.

I have noticed that the Ubuntu 24.X installer after booting to the live USB media is dramaticly different with the UI interface layout than what we had previously with version 22.X and before of Ubuntu. I'm noticing after hitting ALT+Super+S to enable Orca, then tabbing, a lot of items are not labeled very well just saying "Button" over and over as I tab. Further, when I reach the screen to connect to a wifi network, things are extremely problematic. I cannot get Orca to focus on the connect button, and using screen review commands in Orca isn't letting me activate the connect button once I move my flat review to it. I can sometimes get it to tab me to the connect button, but it's very random/inconsistent.

Finally, focus seems on my end to be jumping all over the place when I am on the screen to enter my name, computer name, user name, password, and confirm password. For example. If I am in the "Your name" field, and tab, rather than being taken to "Computer name", Orca focuses there, but then almost instantly is seeming to jump back to the "Your name" field. It's as if it's somehow getting stuck in that first text field. Again like with wifi, if I tab and shift tab around, I generally can eventually make it cooperate, though I've not found any direct pattern yet of consistent procedure that works all of the time... It's basically hit or miss.

I love 24.X once I get it installed and working, but with all due respect, this installer could use a lot of work from the accessibility standpoint. I'm really not sure why it was changed in the first place. Itr worked fine before, so why try fixing something that isn't broken? Not sure if this is a wayland thing vs xorg, though I doubt it seriously. Probably totally irrellavent. Anyway, are there any tips you all can provide in the mingtime, before hopefully this gets addressed in a future update? I am aware of the Orca e-mail list, but really would rather keep things here if possible, as I get enough e-mail already and really honestly don't have time to cift through lots of messages from the listserv, so, I'd appreciate if that suggestion to subscribe isn't given, as I'm not gonna be doing that for right now.

This is just a copy/paste of a question asked at askubuntu by Christopher Gilland which was CLOSED (off-topic) & then deleted (by OP). I'd rather not see the question disappear, since it has some valid points related to ubuntu-desktop-provision and the installer of Ubuntu Desktop, Ubuntu MATE & other flavors. As such I've copied the text here, given not all users will be able to read the copy that still exists currently on askubu, and may soon disappear completely.

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hey got any updates on this

Sorry I have none.

I do recall talk around this topic after I posted this (briefly anyway), but I can't recall where or if it got far, as it dropped off my radar.

I'll add another link to this thread where I provided another equivalent post; alas it too wasn't on a bug report, so wasn't as seen by developers of the team working on the installer.

The latest update on plucky doesn't mention it; focus being on dual boot in regards 'refinements on the desktop installer'.

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This is a solid reminder to me to make sure I do my best to make my answers on this forum as accessible as possible; even if sometimes a "picture says a thousand words" - I shouldn't rely solely on screenshots to tell the story.

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