I have noticed a slight glitch (random split second freeze) in mouse movement that was not present in 1.12.
2core/2G ram & no swap
Edit:
Turns out to be browser related, switching over to FFesr took out just about all of the mouse glitch.
Mentioned in the previous post . . . XFCE doesnât have âwelcomeâ but it did have âBoutiqueâ and I found those four tabs to do various tasks . . . and I clicked on each of them and they each said âsuccessfully repairedâ . . . but it happened so quickly that donât think anything was actually done . . . . But, conversely, nothing was shown as a âproblem.â Just like now, even though running through various update/upgrade and/or â-f installâ . . . except for those 404 errors now . . . it shows â0 upgrades, 0 broken, 0 held backâ . . . a tad âpuzzling.â
I also have PPC update problems, after running through the MATE 1.16 upgrade procedure I now get a red bar on the login prompt after entering my password which says âFailed to start sessionâ - any ideas welcomeâŚ
Warning to other PPC users this may bork your install - My friday night will be spent reinstalling as I figure it will be quicker in the long runâŚ
No errors during the update to 1.16, all went without a hitch but on reboot its impossible to login âFailed to start sessionâ. Will either try the update again right after install (in which case I will report back here) or just stay on the older version.
Itâs lucky if your âolder versionâ is still working, because indeed, it does appear that trying to upgrade to 1.16 âwill âborkâ your PPC MATE sessionâ . . . spent some more time yesterday trying to âfixâ the install, and or âregressâ back to MATE 1.14 . . . but my attempts to remove the âdevâ ppa didnât make any difference to the situation. I also tried to use synaptic to install âubuntu-mate-desktopâ . . . but it was âflaggedâ with the exclamation point and error provided was called âbrokenâ . . . . I didnât try to âforce the packageâ as numerous dependency problems were showing.
The error in the PowerPC packages sources list continues to show up . . . however, in a Lubuntu 16.04 install on another computer, also PPC . . . I checked the sources list, very short list, ran the upgrades, no errors from the PPC side . . . . I tried to set my MATE source list to be similar to the Lubuntu Software Updater info . . . and tried the update/upgrade in the PowerMac . . . no luck . . . MATE remains busted. XFCE session is OK in spite of the 404 error in the update list.
I ended up reinstalling as guessed this would be just as quick as investigations. Will leave the 1.16 upgrade alone until/if itâs included in the main PPA (or 16.04.2?) and will not be adding additional PPAs again.
I used ppa-purge to roll back to 1.12, since there were changes I didnât quite like and a couple of minor regressions. Pity I couldnât go back to 1.14. 
Is this in reference to a PPC install? Or regular ???
@et al:
I replied to the topbanana post via email . . . doesnât seem to have made it into the thread?
n_s
No, Iâm on a regular PC. I was just making a âjust throwing it out thereâ sort of comment.
The upgrade did work fine, but there were a few small things that was enough for me to downgrade for now:
- Closing a terminal tab with something running didnât prompt âAre you sure?â
- Long folder paths started getting âcut offâ in Caja.
- GTK 3 seeping everywhere⌠(Iâm clinging onto the look & feel of GTK 2âŚ)
That wonât happen, since 16.04 is a LTS and only accepts bug fixes for stability - this PPA was to provide a new version kindly backported by @Wimpy for users on 16.04. It could be possible for someone to package up MATE 1.14 and provide packages / a PPA for it.
The logs donât tell me anything about you sending in a reply. 
Try again, or post here?
Cool, thanks for the reply . . . interesting that you couldnât drop back to 1.14 in the downgrade . . .??
I think I have U-MATE âregularâ installed on a MacPro based on 16.04 . . . possibly I checked that version of MATE and I believe that it was 1.16?? Or it could have been the Gecko MATE system installed on same computer ??? One of them had 1.16 as the de facto DE . . . . My problem child of course is the PPC system, machine running generally fine . . . lagging as far as resources for dealing with the web, but for most other tasks, just fine.
My email back to TopBan was referring to the later options for PPC in U-MATE that are possible choices, rather than Topâs choice for re-install . . . 16.10 and a beta 17.04 that I was considering, since to get back to the MATE DE would probably mean having to do a nuke/pave . . . those would likely be the last options for PPC users . . . although I generally go with LTS versions, which might mean a re-install of xenial MATE.
PPC is not getting a lot of âloveâ from the upstreamers these days . . .
This was fixed in todayâs update.
devs:
I ran through this upgrade today on my Mac Pro U-MATE 16.04 install and all seemed to go well . . . rebooted back into the new MATE 1.16 . . . . Other than a âmomentaryâ odd moment where the FF toolbar where the three buttons upper right extended passed the right side of the window . . . that was âhandledâ by quiting the app and re-opening . . . the edge of the toolbar now marks the edge of the rest of the window . . . .
No noticeable differences yet between the older MATE 1.12?? and the newer version . . . ??? Guess itâs all âunder the hoodâ???
n_s
Youâre welcome to investigate the changes since 1.12 by checking out the successive release announcement since that release.
Hereâs the 1.14-1.16 release notes: http://mate-desktop.org/blog/2016-09-21-mate-1-16-released/
Great, works perfect. Thanks!
ABTW Zeitgeist (engine, daemon, lib) and Synapse launcher are great tools and help for my workflow.
Thanks for the post, yes, the list looks substantial . . . but still âsubtleâ in the GUI from what was âthereâ before . . . visually speaking . . . seat of the pants . . . . Havenât had a whole lot of time to spend with it yet; but overall my choice for DEâs is MATE in the linux distro realm . . . in the âbang for the buckâ subjective scale.
n_s
Hi,
This is good to read ! Thank you very much.
Just a question, in regard of going to LTS, how stable is this ppa for everyday computer ?
It has been very stable, at least for me. Iâve run it since it came available (January 14th) on my main work computer (Ubuntu MATE 16.04.2 LTS). Approx. 10 hours/day hard work with multiple apps open so it really does get used - not just sit idling.
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thank you samuvuo !!! so letâs try it first in VM !! 