Ubuntu MATE 25.10 - My First Thoughts

[EDITED BY THE AUTHOR: I decided to take a look at UM 25.10 on actual hardware (installing on my Asus Vivobook directly) and had the chance to review it. Changes to my review are clearly marked below in bold text in square brackets and the original post is kept at the bottom for comparison purposes.]

Finally, I got to take a look at Ubuntu MATE 25.10 today – It is kind of fun doing these reviews and play around with a release every 6 months so I might try and keep this going.

First, the installation environment:

I installed UM 25.10 [on actual hardware (Asus Vivobook laptop)]. This laptop is pretty bad in general but it makes for a great test machine (rather than end up as e-waste).

Secondly, the installation (into the environment :sweat_smile: ): (ok, excuse the bad jokes, it’s been a long Friday)

Live environment booted up very quickly, but HOLY, the Ubuntu installer (flutter installer) was flickering like crazy [even when installing directly on hardware, it was being flickery like this]. I haven’t used the flutter installer recently (I think it’s been a few months since I installed a version of Ubuntu using this) and the graphical glitches were really unfortunate. I now understand people’s displeasure with the flutter installer as, although it worked, the flickering was horrible.

However, that aside, it installed very quickly which was nice. I always love UM for its lightweight resource use and how quick everything just seems to go.

Thirdly, testing my fresh install:

Pros:

  • It was very fast and responsive, as always. UM sure is one of the best distros for a computer that just goes at the speed of light, and it is so appreciated!
  • Light on resources (about 800M on cold boot according to htop). Awesome! [I didn’t check htop on the install on real hardware, but I would assume it would be similar.]
  • [The switch to Slick Greeter is great in my opinion (though I think that was done earlier in 24.10 or something), especially getting to personalise the greeter using a GUI without having to dive into gsettings. It also doesn’t have the bugs Arctica Greeter had. Job well done on this decision!]

Cons:

  • No new wallpapers with the Questing Quokka (still Oracular Oriole).
  • [Display issues redacted as they were a VM issue. UM worked like a dream as always (and looked awesome when I installed the legacy wallpapers againpersonal opinion).]

Conclusion:

[Loved this release overall on real hardware and I’m glad the issues I experienced were VM issues. Other than the Flutter installer, everything worked seamlessly. Great job team!]

I always will love Ubuntu MATE and this team / community – everyone works so hard and I do want to give a huge congratulations to all involved in another UM release, version 25.10, and this community is so uniquely helpful and kind compared to others I’ve experienced.

I hope this will be helpful. Thank you for reading.

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ORIGINAL POST

Finally, I got to take a look at Ubuntu MATE 25.10 today – It is kind of fun doing these reviews and play around with a release every 6 months so I might try and keep this going.

First, the installation environment:

I installed UM 25.10 in a Virtual Machine (VM) using QEMU/KVM Virtual Machine Manager. I allotted 4 GiB of RAM, 60 GiB of virtual hard drive space, and 4 CPU.

The host machine is Asus Vivobook laptop that (at the time of writing) is running Kubuntu 24.04.3 LTS. This laptop is pretty bad in general but it makes for a great test machine (rather than end up as e-waste).

Secondly, the installation (into the environment :sweat_smile: ): (ok, excuse the bad jokes, it’s been a long Friday)

Live environment booted up very quickly, but HOLY, the Ubuntu installer (flutter installer) was flickering like crazy. I haven’t used the flutter installer recently (I think it’s been a few months since I installed a version of Ubuntu using this) and the graphical glitches were really unfortunate. I now understand people’s displeasure with the flutter installer as, although it worked, the flickering was horrible.

However, that aside, it installed very quickly which was nice. I always love UM for its lightweight resource use and how quick everything just seems to go.

Thirdly, testing my fresh install:

Pros:

  • It was very fast and responsive, as always. UM sure is one of the best distros for a computer that just goes at the speed of light, and it is so appreciated!
  • Light on resources (about 800M on cold boot according to htop). Awesome!

Cons:

  • No new wallpapers with the Questing Quokka (still Oracular Oriole).
  • Display issues out the wazoo: As usual in a VM, I needed to set the resolution myself to 1920x1080. However, once I did, it would not let me keep it (trying to click the box to keep the settings would unfocus the window then, after 30 sec??? (I think), it reset back to the very low default resolution) and also deleted the two panels (with running mate-panel –reset not doing anything). Once I tried a couple times with no success, I had to set the display resolution using xrandr -s 1920x1080 which worked. Nothing brought the panels back though.
  • After a while, I got a pop-up about Ubuntu 25.10 experienced an error and the crashed package was marco (which makes sense given the point above).

Conclusion:

Unfortunately, I was not overly happy with this release at this point for a first impression (with the understanding that software will experience more bugs immediately following release rather than giving it 1-2 months or so). The installer and display issues were something I could not ignore and my hope is these were issues related somehow to the VM.

Although I’ve changed my position on this a few times in the past, I am an LTS user for production, and I will always recommend LTS versions going forward to anyone looking to install Ubuntu MATE (or any flavour for that matter) on a machine intended for production use.

I always will love Ubuntu MATE and this team / community – everyone works so hard and I do want to give a huge congratulations to all involved in another UM release, version 25.10, and this community is so uniquely helpful and kind compared to others I’ve experienced.

However, I must be honest, and I cannot ignore the problems I encountered in my test run today. I believe that, only by being honest can we solve problems that are encountered and make the greatest experience possible for our beloved distribution.

I hope this will be helpful. Thank you for reading.

Jaymo

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Thank you for the review!

P.S. My guess is that display issues are VM's issues, not necessarily inherent to 25.10 release itself.

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Hi
I’m with UM 24.04.3 LTS on my regular and day-to-day work laptop. Simply works.
I installed UM 22.04.5 on a previous laptop and upgraded by steps up to 25.04. I’ll upgrade to 25.10 when possible. I tried to install 25.10 directly… didn’t work. So, direct testing when times allow - no VM, no live USB.
So far, I keep with the decision to upgrade from LTS to LTS simply based on a “no-surprise” rational. Which I would apply to any version or flavour (whether Ubuntu/Mint or Debian driven), as far as I’ve read from their respective communities.

W

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Thanks for letting me know, Eugene. I will play around with the VM settings and try to resolve the display issue.

I also had an issue that, once the resolution was set at 1920x1080, when I would click the mouse, it would act as though the mouse was clicked elsewhere on the screen (i.e., clicking the “X” in Caja would not close, but would click another button on the toolbar in Caja). I was pretty sure this was a VM problem with mouse capture, so I left that out of my review.

Jaymo

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I am very glad that things worked out so well.

That’s completely fair, Watford. I am very much of the opinion that LTS works the best for machines needed for reliability.

Jaymo

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If I may ask also for others’ opinions on this:

I have read on this forum that many people struggle with the flutter installer. Is this sort of a consensus that this is not good or could this also be a display problem with the VM (similar to what @ugnvs Eugene noted in his reply)?

I ask because I have not used the flutter installer in a while. My Ubuntu system on my production machine is Ubuntu Server with the desktop installed afterward (thus using the console installer, I’m not sure the name) or Calamares (testing Kubuntu on the secondary Asus Vivobook).

Jaymo

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I’ve never had any trouble regarding the flutter installer. I tried Ubuntu, Ubuntu Studio, Xubuntu and Ubuntu MATE all on 24.04 and worked fine. Fresh installations, deleting everything on the hard drive and letting the installer create whatever partitions it needed.

Did al of this in my current computer, which is at least 10 years old.

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I'd suggest to try VirtualBox. Just download it directly from www.virtualbox.org. VirtualBox always worked fine for me, and QEMU/KVM proved to be somewhat involved.

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I really appreciate the feedback @ClaudioDC and @ugnvs . I'm happy that this is almost certainly a VM issue than issues with UM.

I have Virtualbox installed (via apt-get) but was led to believe from YouTube that QEMU/KVM was better. I'll install UM 25.10 in Virtualbox and edit my review, as required.

Jaymo

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I tried to use VirtualBox from Ubuntu repos and it was buggy an unusable. VirtualBox from developer's site worked flawlessly.

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Mayhaps this is the reason it is named “flutter”?

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I am trying to fresh install 25.10 on another laptop…and the live doesn’t see the available wifi
Is there a quick fix ?

W

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In Virtual Box same issue with the Flutter installer and it didn’t want to use my Internet connection during the installation.

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My guess is that it means a backport of
Like
add-apt-repository ppa:canonical-hwe-team/backport-iwlwifi
sudo apt-get install backport-iwlwifi-dkmsiwlwifi

I’ll try that route

W

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Darn it, I tried to get going in Virtualbox this evening and this happened:

I knew this was going to be a challenge with getting Virtualbox up and going. I don’t really do a lot of VM stuff, but didn’t want to nuke my current system (by the way, I’ve switched to UM 24.04.3 on the Asus Vivobook host instead of Kubuntu, if it matters).

I’ll have to try and debug this later. I really want to give it a shot and give UM a glowing review. I just need to set up my VM environment for success.

Jaymo

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My experience has actually been pretty good. It’s a lot better than i expected. The only issues i have encountered is that bluman is still crashing (for some reason), i had no internet during install (i had after the installation, just updated and installed codecs afterwards).

the desktop is still on Mate 1.26.2 however. Don’t really understand why, or if it even matters.

Other than that, a really good, well performing update with a few theme updates from ubuntu as well.

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MATE 1.28.2 only recently landed in Debian's unstable repositories (2025-10-21) - so odds are, it should make it into the next release, Ubuntu MATE 26.04. :tada:

There were some hiccups at a packaging level which made MATE 1.28 tricky to package:

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All,

I finally got a chance to review UM 25.10 Questing Quokka again, but gave up on the VM thing (for now) due to a lot of issues getting it going and not having the time/patience to deal with them at the moment.

The review at the beginning of this thread has been edited based on my new opinion, which is, that I absolutely LOVE IT (just like releases prior).

I’ll have to figure out how to properly get a VM going in the future, though, as I’d always like UM to have a home on at least one of my computers (and not wear out my thumb drives installing distros on it whenever I want to take a look at something new).

Great job team!

Jaymo

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