This collegiate environment is entirely conducive to constructive criticism and requests for user features. What it is not conducive to is the kind of âcustomerâ rudeness one might expect to have to put up with in a commercial environment.
Here you are trying to imply that it is not constructive for anyone to speak candidly on behalf of the typical end user. You comically over-reacted to the way that my follow up question was phrased, and falsely accused me of not being clear in the original question (which you neglected to answer.) Now you falsely accuse me of being deliberately rude.
Your entire argument seems to be predicated on the fact that you were offended by a humorous application of the word âhorrible.â The error I made was in assuming that it would be understood in this context to mean the typical user finds this behavior of Ubuntu Mate intolerable, and would choose a different distro on that basis alone. It is a simple statement of fact, and I think a reasonable person would want to understand this. But even after I tried my level best to explain that in greater detail, you still insist upon taking offense where none was intended, and you want to convert the discussion into a debate about who is justified in using Linux. From my perspective, you are just trying to change the subject:
You seem to be particularly upset that I did not accept the workaround as a realistic solution, and pressed for a clarification of the alternatives. Here again you have neglected to answer a simple, direct and sincere question because you want to discuss something else. So I still donât know who is ultimately responsible for this dysfunctional behavior in Ubuntu Mate, and whether it is truly deliberate. In other words, if it was fixed in Ubuntu or Mate-Desktop, would the developers of Ubuntu Mate revert the change? I think that is an entirely reasonable question, and itâs only rude if you want it to be. And this appears to be precisely what you want, because you wonât answer the question.
If you perceive Linux development to be a thankless job, then you should either stop doing it, or collaborate more closely with people who want to create a system that would make development more rewarding, instead of arguing with the users about whether something is a bug or a feature. And if you are not a developer, I have to question whether you are representing the majority of developers in an accurate manner here. But in either case, it is not necessary for you to agree with my characterization of the issue as a âbugâ in order to answer my questions.
Now I understood this forum to be a place for people to ask general questions about the OS. But you just continue to accuse me of being rude or unclear instead of trying to answer those questions. If you would prefer that I do not use Ubuntu Mate, you only need to tell me which Linux distros include the sort of functionality that I described. If you donât know the answers to any of my questions, would you please just admit this, instead of beating around the bush?
I am doing this because this is what people on here do. They try to help others.
I try to help others too. That is why I provide free technical support for users who are not particularly computer literate, and represent their needs to developers where it is appropriate.
Left click on the favicon and, whilst holding down the left mouse button, drag it to your desktop. Thatâs it, you now have a link to the page.
Now you are contradicting yourself: in post #2 and #4, you implied that it does not work this way in Ubuntu Mate. You further indicated that this is by design, and vociferously defended that design decision. Now you are claiming the total opposite: you are saying that it actually works the way I wanted on your hardware platform. But you did not clarify the reasons for this discrepancy. So let us return to the beginning here:
We have to establish what is the intended behavior of Ubuntu Mate with regard to this functionality before we can find a solution to the compatibility problem. If you canât answer my questions, and do not want to help me find a solution, you should not participate in this discussion. Your talent for debate and the general philosophy of open source is not the issue here: the topic is how to fix drag & drop shortcuts on a platform where it doesnât work. If you donât know how to fix this, just let it go and move on to something else.
it is also entirely possible that there may be certain instances where the above might not work.
And if it does not work, what actions would the user need to take to correct the dysfunctional behavior? That was the gist of my original question, and everything else you have raised is off-point.
Linux is always going to have the occasional issue around the edges.
That is implicitly understood. But since this is a technical support forum, I was looking for someone who could assist me in solving the problem. Clearly you are not that person. If you donât know the cause or the solution, you have no justification to take offense when you are not praised and thanked for providing off-point answers. If I have made a mistake, and posted in the wrong forum, please direct me to the one where my question is most appropriate.
And, of course, there is an alternative for those who find the above unacceptable. Itâs called Microsoft and Apple et al.
Why do you persist in trying to turn a simple question about how to fix broken desktop shortcuts into a debate about Windows versus Linux? If my platform does not conform to the intended behavior, why do you not regard that as a bug? I refer you here to a survey in this community which attempts to assess whether Ubuntu Mate is performing as designed on various hardware platforms:
Hardware compatibility template - Laptops
Hardware compatibility template - Desktops
Again I assert that if you were in charge, surveys like this would be replaced with the admonition to âtake it or leave itâ instead of providing constructive feedback to the developers.
Furthermore, your suggested intention to make a comparison chart sounds like a capital idea and I urge you to produce it and post it on here
I would be pleased to do so, but I am unable to complete the task if I cannot obtain a clarification regarding the intended behavior of the OS, and cannot determine who is responsible for fixing bugs in cases where a supported hardware platform does not conform to that behavior.