Ubuntu MATE 19.10 Beta Testing

Point taken

I was assuming he was going to work something
to help the development team...and that he was focused on the applets
I just adviced him to code an entirely stand alone program that resizes applets icons and widgets...above the "messed up algorithm" of the OS
Sorry for the misunderstanding

Also it's humanly impossible to search and find
the exact line for each applets in the source code...even with the best finder in the world
and make the right changes without further messing up the source code

So the solution is (my thought) patch-up program

That, basically.

It doesn't matter which way you approach it: you can't magically change the size of the applet's rendering space without changing the applet itself. An "external program" still can't do anything except record a "fake" size for the applet to work to, so acting on that value still has to happen within the "impossible to search and find the exact line" area that you mention. By the time you've found that, it's not really any harder to fix up the logic as is it is to just pile another hack on top of what's in there already, and you get a much more maintainable codebase at the end of it plus not needing that patch-up program (which, remember would add more work every time someone made a new applet).

Hi @Med_Medin,

the dconf section for the applet you are looking for is /com/canonical/indicator/datetime/. You may want to check "show-date" and "show-day" toggles.

Best regards!

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Thanks really man, that was very precise and helpful :wink:

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I don't use evolution so I tried to completely removed it then indicator-datetime package was also removed and my time indicator disappeared, when I tried to reinstall indicator-datetime other packages related to evolution are trying to be installed as well

@ubuntu-mate:~$ sudo apt install indicator-datetime
The following NEW packages will be installed:
evolution-data-server evolution-data-server-common indicator-datetime libaccounts-glib0 libcamel-1.2-62 libebackend-1.2-10 libebook-1.2-20 libebook-contacts-1.2-3
libecal-2.0-1 libedata-book-1.2-26 libedata-cal-2.0-1 libedataserver-1.2-24 libedataserverui-1.2-2 libgeocode-glib0 libgweather-3-15 libgweather-common
libmessaging-menu0 libphonenumber7 ubuntu-touch-sounds

How can I reinstall indicator-datetime without those packages ?

I don't think it's possible, it wouldn't work without them

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But the old clock-applet which shows date and time correctly does not need those packages to work, so why the new datetime indicator need those useless packages ?

The indicator integrates with evolution to show calendar events, bringing back a feature that GNOME 2 had back in the day (albeit with the applet rather than indicators, since indicators were not yet a thing back then)

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Thanks for your kind response, truth I use browser (Firefox) for everything : gmail, tasks, planing, events, bugs..., so back to the nice old clock applet :slight_smile:
Why I hate installing Evolution is that so many services are started automatically with it which consume my precious memory/cpu on my old laptop.

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Hello everyone
I had a lot of trouble with a 19.10 install from the beta iso and I wanted to pass it on.

This is an older Core Duo Optiplex 760 with an AMD Radeon Cedar video card installed. It's getting a bit long in the tooth, but it's been a great media center computer for many years and never had much trouble.

My install using ubiquity on this computer is always the same: BIOS installer, for partitioning I choose More Options, and I choose sdb1 for a fresh install of the root filesystem (with formatting) and sdb2 for mounting /home (no reformat.)

The entire process completed, but then GRUB could not install to sdb. The only error it gave was "there has been an error."

I'm sorry I can't give more info- the machine needed to be functional again by this morning so it's happily running Debian Buster now.

Every time I go to update, I this is what I get. It appears that one source is not working, even after the stated time that it will be available to update. Can someone please tell me how I can get updates?

tim@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update
[sudo] password for tim: 
Hit:1 https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable stable InRelease
Ign:2 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable InRelease                                                                          
Hit:3 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable Release                                                                            
Hit:5 https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com disco InRelease                                                               
Get:6 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu eoan InRelease [255 kB]                                                               
Hit:8 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu eoan-updates InRelease                                          
Hit:9 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu eoan-backports InRelease                  
Ign:7 https://dl.bintray.com/etcher/debian stable InRelease                         
Get:10 https://dl.bintray.com/etcher/debian stable Release [3,674 B]
Hit:12 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu eoan-security InRelease                                                                   
Reading package lists... Done                                                                                                      
E: Release file for http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/eoan/InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 3h 25min 20s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.
tim@ubuntu:~$ 

Additionally, when I try to use the "Software Updater", I get the following error:

Screenshot

Apologies if this is already posted.

Steam did not work from the Boutique install - I had to manually install

sudo apt install libnvidia-gl-435:i386

Now steam loads up fine. Here is the terminal output from running steam and then installing additional software

https://pastebin.com/X9BdPwKk

System Specs below
zebedee@mate-2950x:~$ inxi -Fz
System: Host: mate-2950x Kernel: 5.3.0-13-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: MATE 1.22.2 Distro: Ubuntu 19.10 (Eoan Ermine)
Machine: Type: Desktop System: PC Specialist product: Amd X399 Overclocked v: N/A serial:
Mobo: ASUSTeK model: PRIME X399-A v: Rev 1.xx serial: UEFI: American Megatrends v: 1002 date: 02/15/2019
CPU: Topology: 16-Core (2-Die) model: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X bits: 64 type: MT MCP MCM L2 cache: 8192 KiB
Speed: 2198 MHz min/max: 2200/3750 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1996 2: 1925 3: 2196 4: 2196 5: 2131 6: 2130 7: 2216
8: 2128 9: 1969 10: 1934 11: 1936 12: 2103 13: 1925 14: 1925 15: 1925 16: 1925 17: 2245 18: 2196 19: 2196 20: 2196
21: 2196 22: 2110 23: 2195 24: 2232 25: 2196 26: 2113 27: 1925 28: 1925 29: 1925 30: 2245 31: 2196 32: 2196
Graphics: Device-1: NVIDIA TU102 [GeForce RTX 2080 Ti] driver: nvidia v: 435.21
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.5 driver: nvidia resolution: 3840x2160~60Hz, 3840x2160~60Hz, 3440x1440~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: GeForce RTX 2080 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 435.21
Audio: Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 17h HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
Device-2: NVIDIA TU102 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
Device-3: Elgato Systems Cam Link 4K type: USB driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid,uvcvideo
Device-4: Logitech USB3.0 Hub type: USB driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid,uvcvideo
Device-5: C-Media Gaming Keyboard G910 type: USB driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid
Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.3.0-13-generic
Network: Device-1: Intel I211 Gigabit Network driver: igb
IF: enp5s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac:
Drives: Local Storage: total: 11.11 TiB used: 6.60 TiB (59.4%)
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB size: 931.51 GiB
ID-2: /dev/sda vendor: Mushkin model: MKNSSDRE1TB size: 931.51 GiB
ID-3: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Seagate model: Backup+ Hub BK size: 7.28 TiB
ID-4: /dev/sdc vendor: Samsung model: SSD 860 EVO 1TB size: 931.51 GiB
ID-5: /dev/sdd vendor: SanDisk model: Ultra II 960GB size: 894.25 GiB
ID-6: /dev/sde vendor: Samsung model: SSD 850 EVO 250GB size: 232.89 GiB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 97.93 GiB used: 12.54 GiB (12.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda8
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 36.1 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 44 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 gpu: nvidia fan: 35%
Info: Processes: 516 Uptime: 18m Memory: 62.73 GiB used: 3.62 GiB (5.8%) Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.36
zebedee@mate-2950x:~$

Regards Zeb...

Yesterday my brightness was remembered after every reboot, but today after rebooting my brightness is always reset to maximum, did anything changed ?
I received some upgrades yesterday and today morning which caused this bug.

How is the screen tearing fix in Marco working out for folks with NVidia GPUs?
According to https://youtu.be/iVzGZo5kS8c?t=903 the ForceFullCompositionPipeline setting was still needed to prevent tearing in 19.10 beta.

Check out this page - 19.10 - fix screen tearing after upgrade on Nvidia systems by removing the proprietary driver

Due to of some changes in bash-completion and/or maybe mawk our LiveCD and installed system are affected by the following bug:

auto-completion of umount /dev/ with Tab does not work and gives error instead of completion:

$ umount /dev/awk: line 18: function gensub never defined
awk: line 18: function gensub never defined

I have already reported it as bug

https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1845529

but the reaction on launchpad is very disappointing, no one wants to take responsibility and recognize a bug in some package.

Please do the following:

  1. open terminal on live or installed UM 19.10
  2. type umount /dev/ and then press Tab to confirm the error
  3. visit corresponding bug page on LaunchPad to indicate that you are affected by this bug: click Does this bug affect you? and then Yes, it affects me.

Note: installation of gawk package fixes the issue, but it is not installed by default.

Going back to noveau is not an option for many, unfortunately. The performance gap (especially on non-Kepler GPUs, which can't even be re-clocked manually) is just way too large.
I would recommend adding this to the 19.10 release notes, though, just so people are aware of this limitation.

Unfortunately right now you have to opt between a nice screen tearing free desktop experience or high performance games/ professional 3D modeling with tearing.
As I do not run games, and professional 3D can be used on Microsoft Windos if necessarily, I don't need Nvidia proprietary driver, and I enjoy Tear Free Mate Desktop/Firefox Browser on it entirely. And desktop /Browser run fast like on Proprietary Nvidia.