This is my very first topic, and sorry for the potential errors in my English.
Storyboard:
By the time I found out the Ubuntu MATE (Gnome 2) is the best solution for me and my needs and my work is fastest in this “type of Linux”
Everything was in absolute harmony and in peace, until one day…
Someone destroys my world with bad drivers in the kernel module.
Reinstalling the whole system or other manual efforts didnt help.
Ok, initial kernel image works fine with the graphic card but after system updates the sad story repeats again and again.
So let me explain the situation in few more details:
Older Samsung NC-10 (cute little netbook) 1Gb RAM
Ubuntu MATE 16.04
32bit edition
Intel 945 express on-board graphic card
Initial kernel module in installation works with native screen resolution 1024X600
All others kernels works only with 800X600 (from Advanced Mode during bootup-sequence)
New kernels are unable to show 1024X600 (80% of screen is not shown), only 800X600
Then, for the testing purposes Linux Mint were installed just to check out the situation.
Almost the same story but somehow the latest kernel works fine on Linux Mint
and the same version of kernel dont works on the Ubuntu MATE (from the regular update)
But anyway I better prefer Ubuntu MATE… Ok I will use only initial kernel in 16.04 but wait…
There is NEW OFFER on the download section… 18.04 BETA 1
Last night I’ve download it and today was installed.
The version (in development at the moment) 18.04 works absolutely normal on my machine!?
YES!!!
Ok, I agree it is BETA 1, but no single issue with it…
All of my favourite programs also works fine.
I‘ve noticed the YouTube-DOWNLOADER missing in the Software Boutique and the KODI as well.
All other things works perfectly, also for the purposes of the testing were downloaded every possible update after the installing the system (including the new kernel for the 18.04)
So, I was forced to leave my beloved 16.04 because of graphic issues after updates of kernel module
but on the other hand 18.04 BETA works like STABLE and the graphic are normal again
Thank you
Once again I have the normal operating system
And I dont know what goes wrong with 16.04 after changing initial kernel with regular updates?
It is just onboard Intel 945 express graphic card…
Thank you for the detailed explanation and your time for this issue.
Ok I know, the operating system must cover lot of things not just what the eyes see.
I’ve explain little weird situation with the drivers that exist in the installation packge but
not exist (or whatever) in further regular upgrades of maintainer.
For sure I will read carefully your topic because of potential same scenery in the future with this edition. Of course I hope this experience will not repeat.
But, let me enjoy now in the newest and functional system.
I am little tired of experimenting and reinstalling at the moment.
I have some work to do and it is again possible.
All my friends didn’t face this issue with their (other) graphic cards
Please avoid this in further replyes:
a) “if you want or demand to be just stupid & happy - then use the Microsoft Windows” (I dont want to buy new computer just becaue of actual supported operating system on commercial basis, also I care about the nature - this netbook still works, maybe Bill Gates and Melinda have the money - me not)
b) “if the Linux Mint works then use it instead of this” (I dont like it, I like gnome2 traditional Ubuntu menu, also Mint bothers me with agressive wi-fi seletion which is not organized on same way like in Ubuntu MATE)
After checking the topic of Wolfman the system informs me (VIA Terminal) that the package libllvm4.0 was automatically installed and is no longer required, after using “sudo apt autoremove” system removes 53.4Mb of something… Kernel 4.10.0-38 still not deal on the right way with Intel 945 chipset, but 4.10.0-28 works fine…
And just to be more clear - I allways select MAIN SERVER as default server for the updates.
To be more worse someone “very smart” (from the Intel company) removes the download source for the 16.04 Intel 945 driver
So many smart people so big mess around as the result
If you dont know what to do then go to the… toilet…
By the all of these years of using the computer I figured out one thing:
If you have any kind of issue with the free operating systems - support will shut up,
but if you have issue with the commercial systems - support will fool you around just because you have paid for it
I have no single problem with pre-partioning process active, primary or logical partition type…
there are two methods:
a)
/boot
/
swap
or b)
/
swap
also no matter which type I choose ext4 or ext2
the problem is same - after replacing the initial kernel with the new one
I can enter the system only under awful 800X600 resolution
So I am forced to choose every time initial kernel from the boot menu if I want to work normally in 1024X600
So the question is still - how to fix or reinstall graphics with the latest kernel update?
Ok, ok… this problem occurs only on my machine, my friends dont have no single issue with graphics, no matter which version of kernel they use.
And one more thing:when I enter the system under 800X600 there is no possibility in screen settings to choose higher resolution
When I use initial kernel - 1024X600 exists, also if this resolution is applied wide on the system, there is no changes if I choose new kernel after reboot.
Hm… something is weird… I mean that I am finally enter the Ubuntu Mate 16.04 normally using the latest kernel… some kind of software stupidity
First, I found this useful link:
ok, it’s for nVidia but there is one useful advice that works
**_Reboot into GRUB._**
_ Highlight the Ubuntu option and press E._ _ Add nouveau.modeset=0 to the end of the line beginning with linux._ _ Press F10 to boot._
even this process I must repeat few times…
reinstalling the xorg didnt help, only this command line
I’ve noticed graphics are smoother, firefox looks little different with this kernel… but… how to set mentioned command as automatic process during the boot instead to type it every time?
changing the screen resolution in GRUB is not really going to help you I wouldn’t think?. As I said before, Intel drivers are in the kernel so you must have another problem?, do you have a double GPU set-up? (switchable graphics), what is the make and model of your computer?.
Try using the latest version of Ubuntu Mate (Beta), it may simply solve the problem for you?.
I am little confused, now going to reboot and use kernel: 4.13.0-28 to see the differences
(for initial kernel no need to type nouveau.modeset=0 in GRUB)
Well, the only difference (after rebooting) is the version of the kernel module.
Now I am under 4.10.0-28 (32bit) and not under 4.13.0-38-generic i686 (32bit)
Something make this mess but I am just simple user and just wonder - WHY?
For sure I will migrate to the new version but as I mentioned before 2 days:
lacking of software that I use (software boutique) by the default
missing APP GRID software centre
system booting fine with the both kernels (initial one and the second after update) but some games works fine other flickers or get too slow
Look, as the many others, when the Amiga Project was ended I migrate to PC with Microsoft Windows. Also order (in the past) free Ubuntu discs and keep them nowdays as the priceless artefact (Ubuntu 5.10)... The Ubuntu MATE offers that traditional look like. Other Ubuntu editions are lacking with software centres or have different organization of desktop which slows me down in the work.
In the short period of time, because of UNITY (s)hell, I've migrated to Linux Mint but the discovering of Ubuntu MATE was big happiness for me
Please guys, if it works don't fix it
Everyone have an idea what to change things on the working stuff...
and flee off when applied Ideas make mess
For the things I love, I can be stubborn and persistent
(I'm afraid I'm not like that for other things)
Especially because for the first time I have someone who wants to help
This is an interesting proposition
The partitions are fine
Let me take advantage of my experience
Even in Microsoft Windows, the system can't boot if something is wrong with the periphery or BIOS settings
Once was supposed to replace the USB mouse to make the system work.
And here's a lot more silly thing - HDD must be first on device boot list
but was not because Linux installs via USB flash
I can not believe this was a problem?
HDD to be the first boot device
To whom can this come to mind?
Wolfie,
Thanks for the idea about hardware-related parameters
Ich will dir einen schönen Tag
try using 17.10 and the 64 bit version if you can (I still don’t know what your computer specs are, by that I mean the make and model!).
You are using the 32 bit version which might be part of the problem?, what is your partition layout like?, do you have separate root and home partitions?.
the system informs me (VIA Terminal) that the package libllvm4.0 was automatically installed and is no longer required, after using “sudo apt autoremove” system removes 53.4Mb of something… Kernel 4.10.0-38 still not deal on the right way with Intel 945 chipset, but 4.10.0-28 works fine… 
