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April 2022

JokerGermany

will this release have wayland support?

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April 2022 â–¶ JokerGermany

pepa65

Ubuntu 22.04 uses Wayland by default, so it must be supported, and is likely the default? I wonder why it was not mentioned.

April 2022

cyril

I saw earlier that it won't be HUD in new releases of Ubuntu Mate. And it's still existing. It's a good news.

April 2022

sgtnasty

Those AI generated wallpapers are really awesome!

April 2022

caiodev

Superb. Thanks for all smashed bugs, @Wimpy :+1:

April 2022 â–¶ Wimpy

mark_bower

I switched to MATE a couple of years ago owing to its classic desktop: Menu in upper left corner, ability to put FF, TB, Home & Terminal launchers across the top. I am not a sophisticated user, but very pleased with MATE. I hope that the newer MATE can easily be configured to continue with the Desktop I am used to versus the newer format. I believe what I like is called the "classic gnome desktop". (for whatever reason, I do not like having icons docked on the left of the desktop)

mark bower

arcadia, CA

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April 2022 â–¶ mark_bower

wally333

My wife has been running the beta since late March, she is a basic user and everything has "just worked" for her. She had been running Mate 16.04 previously.

Use mate-tweak to choose "traditional" and I think you will be very happy.

I've got the beta installed on a new i9 build and I've had no issues with it either, but my third party tools are not yet supporting 22.04 so I haven't been able to do much with it other than basic web surfing.

So far I've found the 22.04 beta to be in much better overall shape than was 20.04 during its entire first year.

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April 2022 â–¶ JokerGermany

Wimpy Project Leader

You can not run MATE Desktop on Wayland. All the apps in the MATE suite are Wayland compatible but not the desktop session.

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April 2022

anon33084161

I was looking forward to this version, which is really packed with new features and improvements ... now I have to study the release notes thoroughly !!!
giving the possibility to have snap flatpak appimage enabled by default in addition to ppa is an excellent thing, because the user can choose the one that is best for him ... and for this to remove the possibility of having firefox (or chromium) installed as deb that was a drawback

April 2022 â–¶ wally333

mark_bower

o.k. thank you very much. i am also on 20.04LT. again, i like MATE very much.

the only complaint i have, really, is the green opening splash screen; i am red/green color blind and we 5% odd balls do not gravitate to greens or browns. we see bright reds, blues and other colors - given a choice i would select blue or a red version (hue dependent) for the opening screen. just a very, very, minor complaint!

mark

April 2022 â–¶ Wimpy

daniel_giraudet

radiotray-lite is not available....

April 2022

alete

Thanks! can't wait to upgrade my 20.04 :slight_smile:

April 2022 â–¶ Wimpy

wally333

This is a feature not a bug for me, until Wayland 100% supports CUDA, it is useless to me. I need to be able to install CUDA and use it, not chase down potential Wayland issues. CUDA versionitis is more than enough headaches as it is!

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April 2022 â–¶ wally333

Pala

Thank you Wimpy I had a beta and now its Official after upgrade

April 2022

Frieder_Saugschmerle

Very good release enough backward compatibility for old applications (like the good old original working gksu !! )
and at the same time possible to install gtk4 apps.
The Gimp in the repos can run older plugins, such as heal selection after installing some third party debs.

Only big mistake is the window borders on default theme and installed snaps. These two bugs i can fix after install rather quickly. Also tbe decision to remove mate themes is very disappointing.. Apart from these few issues great release..Very good job. One of the few releases alot runs out of the box already correctly . Very good system. I recommend everyone to try it out

April 2022

guyr

Just updated a VM from 21.10 to 22.04. System - About MATE says it is still running 1.26.0. Release notes say it should be running 1.26.1. Synaptic Package Manager says mate-desktop is 1.26.0-1.

After installing, neither Firefox or Chromium could reach reach any sites. I know Firefox switched to a snap package in this release. I had the "Wired connection 1" set up to use CloudFlare for DNS with the following servers: 192.168.2.1, 1.1.1.1, 1.0.0.1. I copied those same servers to the docker0 connection, and now all Internet servers are resolving. I don't remember if I had the docker0 connection before the upgrade.

April 2022

markartman Patreon

ubuntu mate 22.04 is as close to perfection as any OS I've ever seen

April 2022

dougman_ribeiro

Eu estou realmente satisfeito com o Ubuntu Mate 22.04, é lindo fácil de configurar. Eu só achei que ele já viria com uma versão mais moderna do boutique.
O tema Yaru é muito bonito, estou de fato apaixonado!
Gostei da integração do Caja com o Dropbox. (Só gostaria que tivesse a mesma integração com o Google Drive).
E pra fechar com chave de ouro gostaria de elogiar o painel de boas vindas, que é lindo, fácil de usar e cheio de recursos bacanas!

April 2022

marius-ciclistu

Hello. Just updated today to mate 22.04, so no fresh install, 3 systems.
mate 21.10->browser works

mate 20.04 english->browser works after reboot and after freezing at first reboot.

mate 20.04 romanian-> any browser freezes. i uninstalled and installed again.. i switched to english and installed languages. no change. when I start the computer an error popup appears asking to report it. This was an ubuntu upgrade from 18.04.

Should I install a fresh copy or wait for a fix?

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April 2022

carriba

Just done a fresh installation of UbuntuMate 22.04 LTS, no problems. It works like a charm :smiley:

The next bits are my favourite customisations aspects that I have been using in previous releases. Will see how it goes :wink:

How can I enable automatic login after boot?

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April 2022

Markess Patreon

Glorious! Many thanks to the team! I may have to violate my personal policy of waiting a couple months before upgrade!

One question for anyone that might know...

I'm currently on 21.10 with Alder Lake (i5-12600K) + AMD Radeon. Other than minor niggles, its pretty stable with the newer hardware. Michael over at Phoronix did a story recommending installing a newer kernel (5.16 or 5.17) with 22.04 to get all the Alder Lake specific kernel goodness. If seemed to go smoothly for him installing from Mainline, but he was testing with "regular" Ubuntu and not UM.

I'm curious if there's any obvious Mate specific show-stoppers that would make this a bad idea? Or maybe, worse idea, since there's the obvious risk of not using the shipping kernel of course!

Edit: It appears that these changes are already making their way toward insertion into an upstream kernel 5.15 point release(s). So, I guess I just need to be patient for a while longer.

Cheers!

April 2022 â–¶ marius-ciclistu

marius-ciclistu

I just installed a fresh copy of mate 22.04. same behaviour on try ubuntu and after fresh installation. Ubuntu 20.04 does not behave like this at all. Other strange fact is that on an identical laptop it does not behave like this... Any thougths?

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April 2022 â–¶ carriba

markartman Patreon

go to settings & then users to enable automatic login

April 2022 â–¶ marius-ciclistu

markartman Patreon

you may have to run 20.04 until August, when the first point release comes out

April 2022

Dwayne_Hoffman

Does "sudo do-release-upgrade" also work via Terminal?

April 2022

Ovation1357

It's great to see the MATE edition going strong! You guys totally saved me by forking GNOME 2 and creating MATE and it's been my daily driver for many years now, which I why I decided to sponsor the project as well :+1::grinning:

I notice from the screenshot showing the GNOME maps and clocks etc, that we're still stuck with their CSD madness with hamburger menus embedded in the title bar and lack of integration with the rest of the window manager theme :pensive: Is there any further news on convincing them to make that layout an option rather than a doctrine? I really want my classic menus and title bars back :roll_eyes:

Hopefully I'll be upgrading to this release in the next week or so :crossed_fingers:

April 2022

Frieder_Saugschmerle

Anyone got global application menu working?

April 2022

flyingfish2662

thats great!

I uses ubuntu mate on termux ,with tmoe-linux and termux:x11,and it worked smoothly .

May 2022

alpinejohn Donator

Hello Wimpy

I am helping someone to move from OS X to Linux, specifically Ubuntu-Mate. I have just installed 22.04 on a Thinkpad T440; the "target" machine is a similar model. The T440 has a 14 inch screen. For the first time ever I set up using "Cupertino", as a trial.
I de-installed LibreOffice - and then installed it as a Flatpak (to keep up with the new releases more easily). The "Flatpak-LibreOffice" was completey integrated, showing up in the software search, the windows also worked as windows should in Cupertino, and it could be pinned to the dock.
The whole Cupertino way-of-doing-things (marketing English = experience) makes a lot of sense on a 14 inch screen. In 22.04 it does seem to be very mature.

All of that is to say, thank you. :clap: :clap: :clap:

I do not know who came up with the idea or who did the work to make the idea happen, but my thanks goes to them as well. :clap: :clap: :clap:

May 2022

anon49499279

I currently use 20.04 on my dev workstation and I'm planning at some point to switch to 22.04. However, I really hate snap and livepatch, so I would like to ask you if it is possible to remove these two without messing up the entire system?

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May 2022

Frieder_Saugschmerle

If you go as far as i did on 21.10 maybe not:

Here you find some information:

This approach seems to be reasonably safe:

As long as you only remove the snapd daemon it should be safe. If you see that you have to deinstall cups or pulseaudio you are going to far.

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May 2022 â–¶ Frieder_Saugschmerle

anon49499279

Looks like I'm done with Canonical after 20.04. Snap gives me the same Microsoft stink I left 14 years ago.

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May 2022 â–¶ anon49499279

alpinejohn Donator

Hello RestlessDevil

In my opinion - snaps are primarily for IOT and servers. Flatpaks are only for the desktop. At the end of the day it will be the developers who decide. If developers package their software as flatpaks, and not as snaps, Canonical would have to re-package desktop software as snaps themselves. I am not sure they would choose to do that. Perhaps my perception of the situation is wrong. Time will tell. :slightly_smiling_face:

Wimpy has built the basis for flatpak support into 22.04. I suppose the Ubuntu-flavours have more freedom of choice. :slightly_smiling_face:

May 2022

anon49499279

I do not hate the concept and I think about installing Flatpak on my Debian machine.
I do hate the lack of open-source server and becoming dependent on Canonical.

May 2022

OldStrummer

Has anyone successfully upgraded from 20.04 LTS to 22.04 LTS? I chose the LTS release for my server as I've had issues in the past (I'm looking at YOU, MX Linux...) upgrading. Since I'm good until 2025, I wonder if I can upgrade safely and quickly, or should I hold off and continue using what has now become a very solid release for me?

May 2022

mdd12 Patreon

At a minimum I would hold off until 22.04.1 is released. Most bugs will have been addressed.

If you value stability and have no need to update then I would wait until 22.04.3 .

I didn't update 18.04 until late last year.

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May 2022 â–¶ mdd12

Drc

I agree 100%. Hold off until 22.04.1 is release. Many if not all of the problems will be sorted out by then. On my main daily use laptop, I have not upgraded and will wait until 22.04.1. Only on my testing machine have I upgrade.

May 2022

Josele13 Donator

It's a pity, today I tried Mutiny on 22.04 and I didn't like it, you can't add elements to the left panel, it really looks like a copy of Pantheon or Cupertino, I tried to make my own Mutiny with the Netbook layout, but it has been removed. I try to create it with another layout but the icons of the apps, windows or documents are too small.
I don't know which layout to choose...

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May 2022

michuzet

"22.04 Stable" with a lot of basic issues, but this is normal for early "stable" Ubuntu releases :wink:

Apart from a lot of shortcomings of the new MATE, I will focus on one thing that irritates me a lot - mate-maximus, or rather lack of this element.

I've used it in my Pantheon modified MATE environment to integrate maximized windows (undecorate them) into panel (used along with Global Application Menu) - Like on below screenshot:

Now it's gone and I was forced to make above effect using Compiz Window Decoration (!state=maxhorz) instead of disabled "Undecorate maximized windows" setting in MATE Tweak:

Are there plans to bring mate-maximus back, as Compiz solution is not working that great (new window opening in the same application cause no buttons on panel effect, it last until manually window change by alt-tab or mouse click)?

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May 2022 â–¶ michuzet

ironfoot

Hi @michuzet,
mate-maximus is a part of mate-netbook package. Just install back this package.

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May 2022 â–¶ Josele13

ironfoot

Hi @Josele13,
new Mutiny is using plank dock, old Mutiny was simply using a panel with mate-dock-applet. What's exactly wrong with a new dock? It does support adding new application launchers.

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May 2022 â–¶ ironfoot

michuzet

Hi @ironfoot,
I haven't checked enough, I admit - Thanks!

As it turned out the issue I've mentioned about is related directly to window-buttons-applet.

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May 2022 â–¶ michuzet

ironfoot

This applet is a separate thing. Install mate-window-buttons-applet -- and it'll appear in the applet list. I believe you have to add it to your panel manually now.

May 2022 â–¶ Wimpy

Roberto_Tubaro

hola buenos dias!! martin me ayudarias como instalar la actualizacion via terminal gracias!!!

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May 2022 â–¶ mdd12

jodother

I agree that it's better to wait a while before switching to the next LTS release. But the .3 build seems very late to me. And my impression is that UM 20.04 had its best time around .1 or .2. Later I noticed more and more hick-ups and regressions, for example in the menu, panel, caja, network printer connection and samba client. A quite frustrating experience :worried:

May 2022 â–¶ ironfoot

Josele13 Donator

In the left bar I had the applications, but I could also add the hard disk partitions and the personal folder, the recycle bin was placed in the lower area of the same bar, the possible screens, all that I can't do now. I can't remove that clock, I don't like it.

This is my best Mutiny configuration, if the Mate team could add more options to the left bar it would be great.

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May 2022 â–¶ Roberto_Tubaro

Mejans

sudo do-release-upgrade -c -d
May 2022 â–¶ Josele13

ironfoot

What you show there is a configured enlarged mate panel with various applets added. There's absolutely no problem to re-create this setup in UMATE 22.04.


Add new panel to the left, resize it, add applets from the applet list and preferred application launchers. I believe I see these applets: Compact Menu, Disk Mounter, Trash, Workspace Switcher.

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May 2022

mircea

  1. I Upgrade to 22.04 maybe a month ago on one system and no issue with "Advanced Mate Menu"
    On other system upgraded today that Menu is no more present...
    Why is that?
  1. On a small screen laptop 1366x766 this new themes look bulky and screen pixel wasting... I really do not understand when things get Ok, we have to make a big change to mess things,
    even the new grey color of folders can not be distinguished easy on old mate grey wallpapers.

  2. On this last system, probably a kernel issue, I have a problem with display, after some time the display enter in a somehow rapid power on off at high frequency speed, the image on the display looks like it is defective, and the electronic start making noise... for sure if I leave it like this will destroy the laptop electronics (I will try a new kernel as soon as possible), it can be corrected with a mouse click, so for now Laptop will not remain open without me in front of it...

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May 2022 â–¶ ironfoot

Josele13 Donator

How did you manage to make the icons big ? I have made Mutiny from Family Layout...

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May 2022

mircea

Looks like installing the menu is simple like:
$ sudo apt install mate-menu

Install latest kernel 5.17.. and it looks like issue fixed... testing more to be sure...

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May 2022 â–¶ Josele13

ironfoot

I see, looks like a Windows List applet, it is not really designed for vertical panels. Try removing it from your panel and using Dock applet instead. If Dock applet is not in your applet list, install mate-dock-applet package.

May 2022 â–¶ mircea

ironfoot

Hi @mircea,

mate-menu was removed from default installation starting 21.04. It is not maintained, but it still works.

You may also want to check this thread about themes.

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May 2022

Josele13 Donator

Thank you, now everything is in place, a Mutiny to my liking.

May 2022 â–¶ ironfoot

mircea

Thanks a lot ironfoot,

Just installed the theme... so amazing, love it, so excited... it just looks fantastic...

May 2022

ironfoot

You are welcome @Josele13, @mircea ! Hope you'll enjoy the new release.

May 2022

mircea

Looks like issue still present on my main laptop.
I think it happens because of picom compositor or some change in 22.04 window manger... something related to this release (upgrade from 20.04)...

In test Marco with no compositor...

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May 2022

juan4

If you need to use an electronic certificate to access official pages, DO NOT update to this version. Firefox snap won't let you add your card reader because you can't load it by running the PKCS-11 library.

May 2022

mircea

[quote="mircea, post:58, topic:25318, full:true"]

It looks like neither this solve the issue,
But I observe that all time when screen image malfunction appear is in Firefox and when my Mouse is right closer to bottom edge of screen on the scrollbar, so it might be related to Firefox, to scrollbars, screen buffering or something around...